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Old 02-08-2010, 08:42 AM   #1
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Oh hey, just posting my custom Wi-Fi battle movesets here for anyone who watches my videos. I'm currently in college, so I will post a bunch of them when I get home since I can't actually remember all of my movesets from memory.

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Tyranitar, Adamant Nature @ Leftovers / Babiri Berry
252 Attack, 98 Hp, 160 Speed.

- Rock Polish
- Crunch
- Fire Punch / Aqua Tail
- Earthquake / Stone Edge



This is my custom late game sweeping rock polish Tyranitar set. In exchange for its offensive capabilities that it usually obtains through Dragon Dance as a set up move, it nets a lot of extra speed. It gets enough speed to outspeed plus natured base 130's such as Jolteon and Aerodactyl after one rock polish - which was the whole tactic behind this set.

Crunch is there as a prime STAB option as it deals with Latias, which is a very large threat in the overused metagame. Fire Punch can deal with Foretress, Roserade, Shaymin, Celebi and Scizor, but Aqua Tail can deal with Pokémon like Moltres and Aerodactyl which you aren't likely to see late game, so Fire Punch is prefered. Earthquake deals with Heatran and Infernape, since Tyranitar won't appriciate STAB fireblasts to the face, or being exploded all over.

The biggest counter to this set is Scizor, which is why Babiri Berry is an option since it will allow Tyranitar to live a Bullet Punch to the face with some health remaining to hopefully continue the late game sweep. It's reccomended that you use a bulky Pokémon that can take Bullet Punches to the face, such as Jirachi/Metagross with this set.


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Celebi, Bold Nature @ Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
252 Defense, 252 Hp, 6 Special Defense



- Trick
- Stealth Rocks
- Thunder Wave
- Psychic / Leaf Storm

The standard lead Celebi holds leftovers and doesn't appriciate a U-Turn to the face, since smogon made it less bulky. Most common leads such as Jirachi and Infernape carry U-Turn or Fire Punch - both of which won't do anything to a physically defensive Celebi. This set won't be bothered by the common tricking lead, since it's also a tricking lead. With this set Celebi can live U-Turns from Azelf and Jirachi and will almost always get Stealth Rocks up.

The stategy behind this set is Trick the opponent into Stealth Rocks, then when they switch Thunder Wave since they're most likely going to send in something that's fast or try to set up on you. Once they're crippled, set up some rocks and hope you can also get off a Psychic / Leaf Storm. Scarf is a good choice, but can prove to be fruitless if they're already leading out with a scarfed lead like Jirachi, so specs is another choice.

An excellent partner for this set is Scarf Heatran, as it can take incoming fire moves and benefit from them and it can take pretty much anything that Celebi will be attacked by. Watch out for smart opponents, if they predict you then they might switch into Jolteon / Electivire.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:25 PM   #2
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one thing I noticed with rock polish tyranitar is most people use defense to beat him, not speed. Either that or its to stop something like lucario with a choice scarf. Its hard for tyranitar to sweep with no attack boost, especially with lots of swampert running around. Its all situational as well.
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Celebi has to be Scarfed. With Specs they would probably move before it, allowing them to choose again.
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@ Picklesword.

I believe you're forgetting that this Tyranitar is a late game sweeper. Swampert is appearing less and less frequently in OU, however if one was too appear it still wouldn't OHKO with Waterfall/Earthquake, allowing Tyranitar to get atleast two crunches in (providing no flinch/crit hax). Also, Lucario with a choice scarf? The only two standards being used are SD-Espeed and Choice Specs, so that's very unlikely - Even with scarf, it's not going to OHKO unless it has Close Combat. The SD-Espeed set could prove to be a problem, but a smart Tyranitar user would send Tyranitar in against something it walls/counters then set up as they switch into Lucario, thus outspeeding it.

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Yes, I run scarf but specs is another viable option, since the opponent could be leading out with a trick scarfed Pokémon of their own, such as Jirachi. There are also lots of scarfed anti-leads around, which is why some people might consider running it.

I'm in college at the moment, but I will hopefully post some more sets in a few hours.
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I believe you're forgetting that this Tyranitar is a late game sweeper. Swampert is appearing less and less frequently in OU, however if one was too appear it still wouldn't OHKO with Waterfall/Earthquake, allowing Tyranitar to get atleast two crunches in (providing no flinch/crit hax). Also, Lucario with a choice scarf? The only two standards being used are SD-Espeed and Choice Specs, so that's very unlikely - Even with scarf, it's not going to OHKO unless it has Close Combat. The SD-Espeed set could prove to be a problem, but a smart Tyranitar user would send Tyranitar in against something it walls/counters then set up as they switch into Lucario, thus outspeeding it.

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Yes, I run scarf but specs is another viable option, since the opponent could be leading out with a trick scarfed Pokémon of their own, such as Jirachi. There are also lots of scarfed anti-leads around, which is why some people might consider running it.

I'm in college at the moment, but I will hopefully post some more sets in a few hours.
I was refering to choice scarf choice tyranitar to beat standard lucario. I think metagross does tyranitar's job better as a late game sweeper.

but for tyranitar I just don't think its strong enough to deal with other pokemon, you can't OHKO anything without an attack boost, you will get 2hko'ed. It would be good against fragile teams, but that is about it.
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I was refering to choice scarf choice tyranitar to beat standard lucario. I think metagross does tyranitar's job better as a late game sweeper.

but for tyranitar I just don't think its strong enough to deal with other pokemon, you can't OHKO anything without an attack boost, you will get 2hko'ed. It would be good against fragile teams, but that is about it.
Wait, you're implying that Metagross is better as a late game sweeper and then you're going on to say that Tyranitar not good enough to deal with other Pokémon, yet Metagross is? This is either biased, or really not well thought out. Tyranitar has one of the highest physical attacking stats in the OU metagame. Tyranitar may have a slightly worse weak, but it's got the benefit of Sand Veil which will increase its special defense by x1.5.

Furthermore, who would run scarf on Tyranitar when you can force a switch against pretty much any team and get a rock polish up? Rock Polish makes your speed x2, unlike scarf which is only x1.5. Plus you get to switch moves, so you're not forced to switch Pokémon.

I don't understand what you're getting at, to be honest. Tyranitar is excellent with Rock Polish, yet is constantly over looked.
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Wait, you're implying that Metagross is better as a late game sweeper and then you're going on to say that Tyranitar not good enough to deal with other Pokémon, yet Metagross is? This is either biased, or really not well thought out. Tyranitar has one of the highest physical attacking stats in the OU metagame.
Metagross has higher atk.

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No, it's called rock-type in sand storm- sand veil is something else.
Metagross weaknesses- 2xFire, 2xGround
Tyranitar- 2x Water, 2x Grass, 2x Bug, 4x Fighting, 2x Ground, 2x Steel,


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Furthermore, who would run scarf on Tyranitar when you can force a switch against pretty much any team and get a rock polish up? Rock Polish makes your speed x2, unlike scarf which is only x1.5. Plus you get to switch moves, so you're not forced to switch Pokémon.
There aren't any significant Pokemon you can outspeed other than ScarfRotom, which is really not worth wasting this moveslot. Timid 252 Latias is outsped after a DD, and Pokemon like Jolteon and Aerodactyl can barely dent Tyranitar. Even with max speed and Rock Polish, Tyranitar can NOT outspeed ScarfLatias anyway.
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Metagross has higher atk.

Yes, because base 135 attack on Metagross and base 134 on Tyranitar will really be of extreme significance (Two entire points of attack when at max!) I didn't say Tyranitar was better than Metagross once. I simply said it has one of the highest attacking stats in the OU metagame, which isn't a lie.

No, it's called rock-type in sand storm- sand veil is something else.
Metagross weaknesses- 2xFire, 2xGround
Tyranitar- 2x Water, 2x Grass, 2x Bug, 4x Fighting, 2x Ground, 2x Steel,

If you really want to get into bulk, then lets get into it. I'm just going to keep this simple and add together both of the Pokémon Tyranitar, and Metagross' HP, Special Defence and Defence and we will see who is over-all more bulky.
Tyranitar: 310
Metagross: 300

Okay, now we can see that Metagross has a small amount of less bulk, however it's got better resistances. Lets look into how you've stated Tyranitars weaknesses. Almost all water, grass, ground and bug type moves won't OHKO, especially special based ones. I'm not going to get into damage calculations - but I could if I wanted to. The fighting weakness is the only issue I really see.

You may be thinking the weaknesses make Metagross better overall. However, Sand Stream is much more useful than Clear Body in most cases due to the fact it boosts Tyranitars special defence, and it can benefit other team members if Tyranitar gets taken down late game. Sand Stream benefits all rock types and Pokémon of ground/steel type won't mind it at-all.


There aren't any significant Pokemon you can outspeed other than ScarfRotom, which is really not worth wasting this moveslot. Timid 252 Latias is outsped after a DD, and Pokemon like Jolteon and Aerodactyl can barely dent Tyranitar. Even with max speed and Rock Polish, Tyranitar can NOT outspeed ScarfLatias anyway.

Wait, you're saying that outspeeding Aerodactyl and Crobat is pointless? The same applies to Scarf Rotom, who can trick the Tyranitar or Will-O-Wisp. I think out-speeding these Pokémon is extremely important. Aerodactyl will do a tonne of damage, and Crobat could sleep the Tyranitar which could end an otherwise effective sweep.
Finally, I didn't compare Tyranitar to Metagross once. You did, without thinking might I add. You've basically turned this into a rant, over who is the better sweeper. It all comes down to what team members you've got on your side of the field and who would benefit your team more; Tyranitar or Metagross. Heck, some people could even run both.

Rock Polish Tyranitar will remain one of my favourite OU sweepers, due to its vast offensive capabilities and the factor of surprise.
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Have you tried life orb on that set then for some extra power? That might help it a bit more than just pure speed.
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I have, but I personally run Babiri Berry / Leftovers. All of them have benefits in the long run.
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